![]() I think you're still missing the question. Wasn't until near the end that I started second-guessing that idea. For the longest time I thought that, no matter what, your character was going to have to destroy either the BOS or the RR. I wasn't even really trying for that ending 'cept for maybe at the very end. And the quest progression I did to get there made perfect immersive sense to my char. But, yeah, I did a lot of the quests that they say to avoid and still ended up with the BOS/RR/MM on friendly terms. It doesn't mention the PAM glitch, although that could be simply 'cuz they didn't play further enough to encounter it. There's a mod called "Best Good Ending" that has incredibly specific instructions on how to achieve the same thing, and has the player avoid a lot of quests and starting but not progressing in others. (Which my char also would never do, so I backed up to a previous save and now have to avoid PAM at RR HQ.) But I'd wager that's just a game glitch since I really didn't have to do anything peculiar to get to that point. The only glitch being that later on, after sending my char out on one "Kill the Courser" quest, PAM talks as though the BOS has been destroyed and wanted my char to go out and kill a straggling BOS squad. (Assuming the promotion comes from Maxson when you hand in BB, I think so but honestly can't remember 100%) Perhaps the TT mission would have failed, and Kells would have lost his RR-enemy-triggering dialogue, at the point where all my other BOS missions failed (which I think was at Defend the Castle), but I guess I can't be sure. In hindsight, maybe I would have been able to become Paladin too, by handing in Blind Betrayal to Maxson and triggering Tactical Thinking but simply not going to talk to Kells. And I can still do Squire quests for Kells, an ongoing fetch quest for Ingram and hand in blood samples and technical documents. But, for destroying the Institute, I got a congratulatory speech from Proctors Ingram, Teagan, and that one to whom you give technical documents. My char's not a Paladin, but she would gladly give up a promotion to keep Danse alive. So Danse is still alive and I'm still cool with all factions 'cept the Institute (which is no more). Since I never went hostile to the BOS, they weren't part of the enemy waves against which I had to defend the Castle and, afaik, also since I'm not hostile to the BOS, the MM quest to blast the Prydwin will never be triggered - which is totally consistent with my char. (Well, actually I did initially, but went back to an earlier save since my char would never betray the RR and Kells didn't give her a choice.) At that point, I just continued with the Minuteman Ending up until the end and all 3 factions are on friendly terms. I hadn't handed in Blind Betrayal to Maxson after sparing Danse, so didn't trigger Tactical Thinking where you speak to Kells to become enemies with the RR. on Desdamona's advice, I switched to the minutemen from the railroad after I got banished from the Institute for ratting them out to the BOS for the Mass Fusion mission. But this ending seems difficult and certainly non-immersive to get to so I would not bother. In this instance, Danse will give you the same congratulations speech he always does, but on the Prydwen as a full-fledged paladin. Some people have pointed out that you can end the game without killing off any factions save the Institute if you side with the Minutemen at the right time. ![]() So my thoughts are has anyone tried this? The terminal is right there in front of you as you first enter so there's little reason or thought to NOT obtain the data. That is unless they somhow have a means of magically discovering this without the holotape. Without the data it will never be revealed that Danse is a synth allowing you to theoretically bypass the quest "Blind Betrayal". ![]() ![]() It all stems back to that holotape which makes me wonder, what if you leave the Institute without gathering the data? Is it possible to relay out without the data? I'm actually curious if this is possible, be banished but don't insert the holotape before you escape. Maxon orders you to execute him and from there you can convince Elder Maxon to spare him but at the cost of Danse's exile. So, not long after giving Ingram the holotape a few missions later you discover that Paladin Danse is a synth. Warning, if you haven't stop reading because I am giving spoilers.Īll good? Okay. If you've sided with the Brotherhood you probably know what happens after you finish "Outside The Wire" and retrieve the holotape.
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